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Replace Safe-T-Alert RV30-441 Propane Alarm With a Safe-T-Alert 35-741,CO Alarm/Gas Alarm Combo

by Barbara 24. October 2013 06:05

Question about replacements for CCI Controls Propane Alarm 7770.244.

Question: "What 12 Volt RV gas alarm can replace my CCI Controls 7770.244 that is beeping? I also need a new carbon monoxide alarm." Thanks. Steve.

Answer: Safe-T-Alert has two units, the Safe-T-Alert 30-441 and the Safe-T-Alert 35-741. Both are surface mount units.  If you want to add more carbon monoxide detection, I suggest the new combination units, the 35-741 which comes in a black surface mount RV alarm and a white unit. The 30-441, gas only monitor with alarm, comes in brown and white. Both have approximately the same dimensions as the old CCI units.

If your carbon monoxide alarm is hard-wired, please look at these two units, the Safe-T-Alert 65-542 and the Safe-T-Alert 65-541 . The first is flush mounted, i.e. the rear of the unit goes into your RV wall. The second is flush mounted. These are available in white, brown and black.

If your carbon monoxide alarm is battery powered, consider replacing it with the Costar 9RV which meets all the RVIA specs for humidity and temperature ranges. For more protection, install the Costar 12RV-DB which hooks to both your coach 12 volt system and to your RV 12 volt engine battery. This unit draws from the unit with the most power and also has a 9 volt battery back-up.

And make sure your smoke alarm was replaced within the past 5 years as well. Nothing more annoying than being woken in the middle of the night by a false alarm! The Safe-T-Alert 775 is a 9 volt battery powered unit that is UL listed and approved for RV use.

Thanks for your question.

Sincerely,

Barbara

Chart Showing Safe-T-Alert Replacement 12V Propane Alarms CCI Controls Alarms

by Barbara 26. April 2012 10:35

Question about replacing CCI Controls Propane Gas Alarms and Propane Alarms with Tank Valve Shut-Offs with Comparable Safe-T-Alert models.

Q: "My CCI propane alarm in my RV has failed. What unit is available as a replacement since CCI Controls is not in business?" Thanks. Ed

Answer: Below is a chart. The entire unit must be replaced if your CCI Controls unit has an automatic gas valve shut off. Safe-T-Alert replacements for that unit will not work with the CCI valve. Note: new standards require that propane alarms shut down 5 years after installed to power. Shelf life is 10 years if not used.

Below is our main replacement chart.

CCI # Propane MTI Replacements MTI Replacements
CC-7719.04 70-742-R Kit with Valve Surface Mount
CC-7719.58 70-742-R Kit with Valve Surface Mount
CC-7719.70 70-742-R Kit with Valve Surface Mount
CC-7773-231 30-442-P-BR or 35-742BR Flush Mount
CC-7773.081 30-442-P-BR or 35-742BR Flush Mount
CC-7773.251 30-442-P-WH or 35-742WH Flush Mount
CC-7770.230 30-442-P-WH or 35-742WH Flush Mount
CC-7770.231 30-442-P-WH or 35-742WH Flush Mount
CC-7770.233 30-442-P-WH or 35-742WH Flush Mount
CC-7770.234 30-442-P-WH or 35-742WH Flush Mount
CC-7770.241 30-441-P-BR Surface Mount
CC-7773.151 30-442-P-BR or 35-742BR Flush Mount
CC-7770.244 30-441-P-WH Surface Mount
CC-7770.250 30-442-P-WH or 35-742WH Flush Mount
CC-7770.251 30-442-P-BR or 35-742BR Flush Mount
CC-7770.253 30-442-P-BR or 35-742BR Flush Mount
CC-7770.254 30-442-P-BR or 35-742BR Flush Mount
CC-7770.281 30-442-P-BR or 35-742BR Flush Mount
CC-7770.284 30-442-P-WH or 35-742WH Flush Mount
CC-7771.231 30-442-P-BR or 35-742BR Flush Mount
CC-7773.081 30-442-P-BR or 35-742BR Flush Mount
CC-7773.151 30-442-P-BR or 35-742BR Flush Mount
CC-7773.231 30-442-P-BR or 35-742BR Flush Mount
CC-7773.251 30-442-P-BR or 35-742BR Flush Mount
CC-7773.251 30-442-P-BR or 35-742BR Flush Mount

Note: the 30-442 and 35-442 share the same case size. Both recess into the wall so the unit front is flush with the wall. The 35-742 gives you extra safety as you have a carbon monoxide sensor with alarm in the same unit. Please contact Safe Home at sales@safehomeproducts.com or phone us if you have questions. We also sell Costar 9RV battery powered carbon monoxide alarms and Costar 12RV alarms with 9 volt battery back-up systems. Remember that propane leaks are dangerous and carbon monoxide are as well because they can kill silently.

To find these products on our website, go to www.safehomeproducts.com. Go to the search box. Enter for example Safe-T-Alert of 30-442 in the search and you'll get results fast.

Cut-Out Sizes for Flush Mount Units:

30-442-P-or 35-742:

  • Unit Front Measurements: 6.375"W x 2.875"H x 1"D
  • Unit Back Measurements: 5 3/8" x 1 7/8" (part that recesses into wall.

65-542RV :

  • Unit Front Dimensions: 6.5" x 3.5" x 1 3/8 Deep. Unit back dimensions: 5.5" x 3".
  • Case Dimensions: Cut Out: 5.5" x 3".
  • Select  a  wall  location at  least 4” off the
    floor.  Cut a 5 5/8” (143mm) W x 3 1/8” (79mm) H hole

35-741 Cobination Propane and CO Alarm

  • Front Dimensions: 6.5”W x 2.75”H x 1.5”D
  • Cut Out : 5 3/8" x 1 7/8.

Thank your for your question. Please contact us via sales@safehomeproducts.com if you have more questions.

Sincerely, Barbara

Safety Alarms Needed to Protect Home Recently Converted to Natural Gas Heat and Water Heater

by Barbara 31. December 2010 02:34

Question: "We recently converted to natural gas heat and gas hot water boiler. We have two floors above this basement installation. What safety alarm units are required for protection? Nate.

Answer: Thanks for your question for the Ask Barbara Contest, Nate. I am going to answer with the assumption that your home was all electric prior to this conversion. If you heated with propane or oil, some of these recommendations may not apply.

Natural gas homes or businesses need two different types of safety alarms.

Combustible Gas Alarms.

Why do I need a combustible gas detector/gas alarm?

The purpose of a combustible gas alarm is to alert you when you have a raw gas leak. Yes, mercaptan is added to natural gas to make it smell like rotten eggs. But if you are not in the area of the gas appliances and/or you do not have an ability to smell, the odor does you no good. This units must be installed near the gas using appliances. So if your gas furnace and gas water heater are side by side, one natural gas alarm is all you need.

  • No matter how good your nose is, you may not be in the right place at the right time to notice a natural gas or propane leak.
  • Carbon monoxide alarms give NO protection against combustible gas leaks. carbon monoxide sensors detect only carbon monoxide, not raw fuel.
  • Turning off a light, setting a security alarm or closing a door spark a gas explosion or fire. Natural gas leaking from a basement furnace can leak upstairs through hollow walls.
  • Gas can leak into homes via sump pits, inbound water lines or a natural gas well under your home.
  • Each gas appliance is a potential source of a gas leak. Each gas appliance needs its own gas detector
  • We sell two different models with gas specific sensors. These are the Safe-T-Alert Model 40-411-120 and the Safety Siren Pro Gas Alarm; The main differences between the units are how they are installed.

    To properly install the Safe-T-Alert you need an electrical outlet near to the gas appliances. Because this unit has a line cord that is approximately 65 long, mounting ths unit properly is usually less a problem that the direct plug-in Safety Siren. Raw gas detection units must be mounted within 6 inches of the ceiling or on the ceiling at least 12 inches from a wall for natural gas leak protection. Natural gas pools above the appliance: think of an upside down pothole filling with water and you get the picture.

    The Safety Siren requires an electrical outlet near the appliance. Many people choose this option because the Safety Alert unit has a safety tab through which an outlet screw goes. This means the unit cannot be removed from a standard, single screw, double outlet without removing the screw.  These units meet the UL1484 standards for combustible gas alarms.

    Note: UL 1484 listed combustible gas detectors are not detectors for minute gas leaks. Sensors and detectors are tested in a combustible gas environment and meet the UL 1484 standards for alerts of dangerous gas levels. Deliberate exposure to natural gas, butane, propane, etc. can destroy the sensor in this unit. Use the test button to test this unit, not exposure to raw gas.

    Carbon Monoxide Alarms:

    One product of natural gas and all fossil fuels like coal, wood, peat, etc. is carbon monoxide, a colorless, odorless gas. If your furnace and water heater are working properly, carbon monoxide is vented outside. If the vents are not working properly due to obstructions or the furnace heat exchanger cracks, then carbon monoxide is discharged into the air. Unlike combustible gasses, carbon monoxide does not pool but is distributed throughout your air. Carbon monoxide exposure symptoms range from flu-like symptoms to brain damage to death from asphyxiation.

    Recommended at a minimum are carbon monoxide alarms in or outside every bedroom, near the gas appliances and at the top of stairways. The easiest to install are the 9 volt battery units. Believe the alarm even if it sounds intermittently. About 5 years ago, I went to visit my parents in Pennsylvania. They have a washer and gas dryer in their kitchen (since 1952). I noticed that the Costar 9 volt CO alarms were all off their mounts (there were three units total). I was told they were "defective" as they were going off intermittently. I took them home with me and sent them to Quantum Group to be tested. Dave from Quantum phoned and said nothing was wrong with them! Meanwhile, my elderly father did NOT install the plug in Safe-T-Alert unit I had sent them because "I didn't know where to put it." The problem was the vent for the gas dryer was partially clogged with lint!  Since then, local code has changed: their 4 inch diameter gas dryer vent had to be replaced with a 5 inch for the newest dryer to be installed this past year.

    Types of Carbon Monoxide Alarms:

    If you are really concerned about a gas leak, we recommend the Scentry III gas valve shut off systems. Choose from a Scentry III GFRAB LP/Natural Gas Detector Valve Controller with remote sensor capability and a battery back-up option feature or a Scentry III SFGVC Automatic Gas Valve Controller, No Gas Valveunit with a single sensor at the gas valve itself. Scentry units are made in the USA. They do require a special diaphragm type gas valve in 1/2, 3/4 or 1 inch size, a 24 volt power supply and 120VAC or 240VAC power.

    Also install and maintain your smoke alarms which I am sure you already have.

    Thank you for your question and your entry in the Ask Barbara Contest.

    Sincerely, Barbara

    Safe-T-Alert STA-35-742, STA-30-441 or STA-30-442 Replace CCI 7770 and 7773 Series RV Propane Alarms

    by Barbara 29. March 2010 07:37

    Question about the Safe-T-Alert RV Propane Gas Alarms, Models 35-742, 30-441, 30-442 and 70-742

    Question: "The CCI propane alarm in my RV needs replaced. I've just learned CCI is no longer in business. What are my options? Thanks, Tony."

    Answer:  CCI closed down in February 2009.

    To determine which unit you need, you need first to answer this question: Do you have a unit that shuts off the propane gas valve if there is a leak or is yours a propane gas alarm without an automatic gas valve shut-off?

    For a unit that has a gas valve shut off, you need a 70-742-R Kit which is available in white, brown or black. This kit includes the solenoid valve. Do not connect the Safe-T-Alert to any other valve or you risk a fire. These units replace the 7719.04 and 7719.7.

    For a recessed or flush mount propane alarm only, the recessed propane gas alarm model 30-442 in brown, white or black fits the CCI LP Gas Alarm Cut Out (7770 series) for Flush Mount Models. These can be mounted vertically or horizontally.

    For a recessed or flush mount propane alarm only, you can add a carbon monoxide alarm and propane gas combination unit, the recessed 35-442 in brown, white or black fits the CCI LP Gas Alarm Cut Out (7770 series) for Flush Mount Models. These can be mounted vertically or horizontally.

    For a surface mount propane alarm only, the 30-441 in brown and white replaces the CCI LP Gas Alarm 7770 surface mount series These can be mounted vertically or horizontally.  You can also get additional protection with a Safe-T-Alert 35-541, now available in black or white . This unit combines a propane gas alarm with a carbon monoxide alarm, all in the same case for economy of space.

    For a combination carbon monoxide and propane gas alarm, choose the 35-542 recessed unit in brown , 35-542 recessed unit in white or the special order 35-542 recessed combination unit in black. The cut out is the same as the CCI 7700 series cut-out and identical to the Classic Series 30-442-P Safety Alert models.

    Note: Some CCI units in Fleetwood or Winnebago RV's have two power leads, i.e. three wires. The Safe-T-Alert 30 and 35 series units have only one power lead. Connect the red power lead to the coach power supply and cap or remove the other power lead. Use butt connectors to replace any unit with spade connections.

    CARBON MONOXIDE & PROPANE ALARM REPLACEMENT NOTICE: Note to Customers:

    All Safe-T-Alert Propane and Carbon Monoxide Alarms that are 5 years old and older are beyond their Mandatory Replacement Time and MUST be replaced.

    Background: Underwriters’ Laboratories (UL®) Carbon Monoxide Standard UL 2034 and Canadian Standards Association (CSA®) CSA 119.2 now require that all Carbon Monoxide alarms be designed to stop service in 3 to 5 years . UL and CSA have determined that Carbon Monoxide alarms have a limited life. Propane alarms use similar sensors and UL will require the same service life in the near future.

    ALL MTI Propane and Carbon Monoxide alarms which are over five (5) years old MUST be replaced. The following Safe-T-Alert Carbon Monoxide Alarm Models MUST be replaced: SA-4, SA-5, 50-541 and 50-542. Models 60-541 and 60-542 over five (5) years old MUST be replaced.The following Safe-T-Alert Propane Alarms Models MUST be replaced: SA-7 and SA-8. Models 30-441,30-442, 40-441 and 40-442 that are over five (5) years old MUST be replaced.

    Important! Only install CO and Propane alarms that are UL or CSA listed for Recreational Vehicle Use

    I hope this helps.

    Thanks for your question.

    Sincerely, Barbara